What happens to cam chain when timing chain wears?
The remaining problem, which applies regardless of whether the engine is stock or modified when the timing chain has worn, is that the cam chain tensioner will have quite a job trying to take slack out of the valvetrain. When a timing chain elongates it may not do so in a uniform way and parts of the chain may be tighter or looser than others.
How is the chain tensioner installed on a car?
To do this the tensioner is temporarily installed, set, and the engine turned over at least four times to allow the tensioner to self tension. Once the chain tensioner has absorbed the chain slack it is removed and the plunger position is noted.
How do you know the number of pins on a cam chain?
To do this you will need to know the total number of pins on the chain. It is easiest to count the number of pins prior to installing the chain, however, pins could still be counted with the chain installed in the engine by marking one of the links, rotating the engine around, and counting.
Where are the punch marks on the cam chain?
Both punch marks are visible and in the correct spot. As the chain wears the tensioner will absorb slack and the cams will retard. In this image with the old chain installed the exhaust cam punch mark is far too high in relation to the cylinder head machined surface and the intake cam is not even visible.
Which is the best chainring for 1x gears?
Here are the ranges for the most common cassettes that you might want to consider for 1x setups: So in this example, the 11-40 is closest, a bit more range but probably the best choice (or if you think you can do with a bit less range, you could go with the 11-36).
What kind of gear set does a twin cam engine use?
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Do you need to change the cam chain tensioner?
My 2008 96 has 45,200 miles, been using Amsoil since 15k miles. Changed oil 5k miles. it uses a qt between changes. I just found out from an independent wrench that I need to change the cam chain tensioner wear block. That is not mentioned in the scheduled maint, at least I can’t find.
When to switch to a gear drive Cam?
Changed oil 5k miles. it uses a qt between changes. I just found out from an independent wrench that I need to change the cam chain tensioner wear block. That is not mentioned in the scheduled maint, at least I can’t find. I have an extended warranty. So my thoughts are to change to a gear drive cam.
Can You Cam a V-twin without upgrading gears?
Maybe Im just walking to hard on them. You can cam it without upgrading to gears and save quite a bit of dough. The new tensioner system is much better than the older ones. You can use the $$$ you saved on gear drive kit and put it elsewhere, or just pocket it.
How many pins between sprockets on twin cam engine?
I like to span around 6 – 8 pins between the sprockets on a twin cam engine. Unicam engines are trickier and the number of pins you can measure is usually less. It is important to try and measure across multiple pins because the variation between new and old chain measurements will be more pronounced this way.
Where is the timing mark on a magneto ignition?
There is a gear on the magneto shaft that will drive a gear on a rotor (similar to a distributor ignition). These gears must mesh at the proper point. On the FMJ style magnetos, There are 2 teeth with bevels on the magneto side and a tooth with a timing mark on the cap side.
Can a cam chain tensioner be converted to a twin cam?
Ask the owner if the cam chain tensioners have been upgraded to the Twin Cam gear drive conversion, when and to see the paperwork. Better yet have the motorcycle inspected to make sure they have been done. Check out the upgrade to hydraulic cam chain tensioner videos and watch our Cam Gear Drive Conversion Project.
Can a twin cam gear drive be converted to gear drive?
Mike Roen walks us through the next level upgrade to gear drive instead of chain or the Twin Cam gear drive conversion. He reviews the poorly designed cam chain tensioners of the past and how Harley has “fixed” the issue but only after millions of motorcycles were produced with the shoes that can self destruct.
Can a motorcycle be converted to twin cam?
We do recommend the buyer beware of this potential issue on early Twin Cam motorcycles. Ask the owner if the cam chain tensioners have been upgraded to the Twin Cam gear drive conversion, when and to see the paperwork. Better yet have the motorcycle inspected to make sure they have been done.
There is a gear on the magneto shaft that will drive a gear on a rotor (similar to a distributor ignition). These gears must mesh at the proper point. On the FMJ style magnetos, There are 2 teeth with bevels on the magneto side and a tooth with a timing mark on the cap side. The marked tooth meshes in between the bevel teeth.
The remaining problem, which applies regardless of whether the engine is stock or modified when the timing chain has worn, is that the cam chain tensioner will have quite a job trying to take slack out of the valvetrain. When a timing chain elongates it may not do so in a uniform way and parts of the chain may be tighter or looser than others.
To do this the tensioner is temporarily installed, set, and the engine turned over at least four times to allow the tensioner to self tension. Once the chain tensioner has absorbed the chain slack it is removed and the plunger position is noted.
To do this you will need to know the total number of pins on the chain. It is easiest to count the number of pins prior to installing the chain, however, pins could still be counted with the chain installed in the engine by marking one of the links, rotating the engine around, and counting.
I like to span around 6 – 8 pins between the sprockets on a twin cam engine. Unicam engines are trickier and the number of pins you can measure is usually less. It is important to try and measure across multiple pins because the variation between new and old chain measurements will be more pronounced this way.
When to adjust manual cam chain tensioner when hot?
Most people say to adjust it just until the “rattle” goes away when hot. The problem is, I don’t hear any rattling or wooshing or anything even when the tensioner applying no pressure at all (ie. the screw is totally loose and not touching the chain guide).
Are there any Harley cam chain tensioners left in stock?
Only 20 left in stock – order soon. . Only 18 left in stock – order soon. . Only 12 left in stock – order soon. . Only 3 left in stock – order soon. . Only 20 left in stock – order soon. Only 2 left in stock – order soon.
How to install a cam chain tensioner on a car?
Lower the tank back down and remove the rear mounting bolt with a 10mm ratchet and 10mm spanner. Don’t undo the Nut completely and undo the last bit with your fingers so you don’t loose the nut, then pull the bolt through the tank and mounting bracket.
What kind of plug spanner do I need for chain tensioner?
Pull the HT leads off and you will need a 12mm plug spanner (there should be one in the Honda toolkit if you have one under the seat) or you can use an 18mm deep socket if the outer circumference is smaller enough to fit down inside the channel. Note that plug spanners are measured by thread size not the hex attachment. 1.
How long does it take to install chain tensioner?
These have a nasty habit of seizing in place and can turn into a job in itself to remove if seized in place. Be careful when undoing them as the caps are made out of an extremely soft alloy and can round of easily if the hex socket is not securely in place. Total Job completion time should be around 2.5 hours.
When to check valve clearances on Honda cams?
Valve clearances should be checked while the cylinder that your working on is at TDC on the Compression stroke. For more information on valve clearances please refer to the workshop manual. You will find a downloadable copy of the Honda workshop manual here
Is it illegal to post cam chain guide material?
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Which is the best material for cam chain guide material?
Some Nylotron grades are nylon 66 graphite and moly filled. The graphite and molly filled has a very dark gray pearlescent look to it. It should be specified in their data what it actually is. Nylotron also does nylon 6 which has a lower melting point so is not so suitable. RE: Cam chain guide material ??
What can I do to fix my cam chain?
The real cure is a new Cam Chain. There is always one and sometimes several Cam Chain Guides. These guides can be rollers, Sprockets or plates. They keep the Cam Chain on track as it goes through the engine. Some of these guides can be quite complicated like these from a Kawasaki 700 V-Twin.
What should timing be for worn cam chain?
First, with the worn chain installed I checked the cam timing. Then I installed the new chain and rechecked the timing. In the table below you can see the intake cam timing was retarded by 6.625° and the exhaust by 9.50° when compared to the new cam chain timing values.
What does a cam chain guide do on a motorcycle?
There is always one and sometimes several Cam Chain Guides. These guides can be rollers, Sprockets or plates. They keep the Cam Chain on track as it goes through the engine. Some of these guides can be quite complicated like these from a Kawasaki 700 V-Twin.
When to replace the cam chain on a Honda 350cc?
The early Honda 350cc twins had a tensioner controled by oil pressure. Check your shop manual. If the Cam Chain is real noisy and the noise does not go away when you adjust it, the Cam Chain is worn out and needs to be replaced. Just like with the rear drive chain and sprockets, the Cam Chain sprockets should be replaced too.
What are the symptoms of a bad timing chain?
Symptoms of a Bad or Failing Timing Chain. 1 1. Engine misfires or runs poorly. There are two ways to achieve valve timing in a combustion engine. The first is the two-gear method, which includes 2 2. Metal shavings found in the oil. 3 3. Engine won’t start or fails. 4 4. Check Engine Light is on. 5 5. Engine rattles while idling.
When do Harley Davidson twin cam chain tensioners wear out?
They also used, and I can’ remember the technical name of the chain, an older chain design. Indeed the cam chain shoes would wear out partly because of the shoe and partly because of the chain. Harley recommended getting them checked between 35 and 40K miles. Problem is they could give out ANY time and were not covered under warranty.
What kind of tensioner does a Harley Davidson use?
In order to run the valve train Harley went to a cam chain tensioner set up utilizing a spring loaded shoe putting pressure on the cam chain with push rods. They also used, and I can’ remember the technical name of the chain, an older chain design.
Symptoms of a Bad or Failing Timing Chain. 1 1. Engine misfires or runs poorly. There are two ways to achieve valve timing in a combustion engine. The first is the two-gear method, which includes 2 2. Metal shavings found in the oil. 3 3. Engine won’t start or fails. 4 4. Check Engine Light is on. 5 5. Engine rattles while idling.
How can I tell if my timing chain is slack?
A first sign of a timing chain with excessive slack is a change in ignition timing with no change in the position of the distributor housing.
How do you check the timing chain of an engine?
When it comes to crops, you may dig a root pit, perform soil analysis, or pull tissue samples to uncover what is going on within a plant or below the ground. Likewise, when it comes to the timing chain in an engine, there is an accurate method to determine its wear without taking the engine apart.
What does it mean to re-install timing chain?
Which means to align the crank timing marks and the cam timing marks to spec, then re-install the timing chain. Before moving the cam or crank, find a copy of the manufacturer’s procedure on how to do this without banging the valves into the piston or the valves into the valves. The method varies engine to engine.
Why did I rotate the cam shaft independent of the crank shaft?
During a head gasket job I, in my inexperience, allowed the timing chain to slip off the crank shaft. This required taking the front cover off and re installing the timing chain. Again, in my inexperience, I moved the cam shaft around while the timing chain was not installed. At this point I realize the error of my ways.
Where can I find the timing chain procedure?
You can also find step-by-step instructions at www.Autozone.com, setting up an account, and using their repair guides. I just checked, and your ’87 2.4L Z24 engine timing chain procedure is in there. It is slightly involved, so I don’t want to try and retype them here and make a mistake.
How do you install a new timing chain?
This may take a couple tries. When you are sure the cam marks are lined up properly and the sprocket and the keyway on the end of the cam are lined up, you can push the sprocket back onto the cam and tighten the bolt back down. 9. Put the rocker arms back and re-install the tensioner if needed.
When to go to the Mechanic about a bad timing chain?
If the belt is jumping because it’s gotten loose, it can also flail around and damage other parts of the engine. If your engine won’t start or starts driving rough, indicating it may be on its way to failing, contact a certified mechanic for inspection and repairs. 4. Check Engine Light is on
During a head gasket job I, in my inexperience, allowed the timing chain to slip off the crank shaft. This required taking the front cover off and re installing the timing chain. Again, in my inexperience, I moved the cam shaft around while the timing chain was not installed. At this point I realize the error of my ways.
Can you rotate the cam shaft on an OHC engine?
Rotating the camshaft on an OHC engine is easy to do when your pulling the head. And even just changing the chain. If the crankshaft is turned to put the timing mark 90* before top dead center, all 4 pistons will be half way down their bores and you can spin the camshaft with no chance of a piston/valve collision.